Kenneth gives an account of a conversation he had with Mrs. and Mr. True. Mrs. True was going on about the merits of Harvard, but Kenneth stood up for his son, Kip, who was attending Wheaton. Mrs. True argued that Harvard was significantly more difficult, and that an A student elsewhere would be a B or C student at Harvard. Kenneth couldn't agree, arguing that an A student is an A student anywhere, as it all depends on the type of person the student is, and Kip was simply a hard worker. Mr. True agreed, and there seemed to be some tension on the issue between Mr. and Mrs. True. (Length 5:55)